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			<title><![CDATA[Pax Emunio]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3920</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:41:48 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Weasella Uber</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[To the members of Electus Matari, Pax Emunio sends greetings.<br />
<br />
We have existed in various corporate incarnations in the Heimatar and Metropolis regions for some time, now, but only recently have we, as Pax Emunio, become involved in local happenings outside of our corporate interests.  Which is to say, our "corporate interests" have evolved rather than been pushed aside...<br />
<br />
We used to mind our own business, engage in some mining interests here or there, though usually in the safety of a decent system.  Relatively recently - some months ago, now - we decided to get into manufacturing and research and managed to do decently well, between mining resources and putting them to use rather than selling them outright.  Simple step from there to see where this insulated worldview might lead us to owning and operating a research lab, mining ice and the like to keep that going, not to mention the regular mining and blueprint work as a result...<br />
<br />
It really was too much to expect to last, really.  No amount of peace or calm or...well, <span style="font-style: italic;">anything</span> should be taken for granted.  Hubris and an obviously short memory are to blame, not greed or anything of the sort.  There is no karma, no balance that we're due other than what we take for ourselves and forgetting even for an instant to keep an eye on the universe...<br />
<br />
Here we are, now, with an eye to the systems around us; one of our Directors discovered the local intelligence channels and investigated, eventually leading to communication between Pax Emunio and Electus Matari.  We've become engaged in a war which, while it hasn't hurt us directly, the indirect toll on our productivity shows...but more, the effect on our personnel has been particularly galvanizing.  Content, previously, with our safe, workaday lives, we've now become polarized, eyeing those who prey on others not even from a sense of challenge for themselves, but for pure piracy or something even more elementally cruel.  All of our members have had combat ships alongside our industrials and barges, but never for much other than token service to the Republic at times, killing small-time pirates and the like in the belts.<br />
<br />
We're not fighters...but we have it in us, some certainly more than others.  We're not all of the same blood, either, but we do all share a hatred of the Amarr, even those who join us from that rotting empire.  Where we can fight them or fight any who work against the Republic, we will...and where we can do so with our brothers and sisters in Electus Matari, we will do so.  As you have extended us courtesies, we do so in return, fully aware of the disparity in scale of these gestures but seeking, here on out, to do what we can to help.<br />
<br />
On behalf of the Board and general membership of Pax Emunio,<br />
Weasella Uber, CEO]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[To the members of Electus Matari, Pax Emunio sends greetings.<br />
<br />
We have existed in various corporate incarnations in the Heimatar and Metropolis regions for some time, now, but only recently have we, as Pax Emunio, become involved in local happenings outside of our corporate interests.  Which is to say, our "corporate interests" have evolved rather than been pushed aside...<br />
<br />
We used to mind our own business, engage in some mining interests here or there, though usually in the safety of a decent system.  Relatively recently - some months ago, now - we decided to get into manufacturing and research and managed to do decently well, between mining resources and putting them to use rather than selling them outright.  Simple step from there to see where this insulated worldview might lead us to owning and operating a research lab, mining ice and the like to keep that going, not to mention the regular mining and blueprint work as a result...<br />
<br />
It really was too much to expect to last, really.  No amount of peace or calm or...well, <span style="font-style: italic;">anything</span> should be taken for granted.  Hubris and an obviously short memory are to blame, not greed or anything of the sort.  There is no karma, no balance that we're due other than what we take for ourselves and forgetting even for an instant to keep an eye on the universe...<br />
<br />
Here we are, now, with an eye to the systems around us; one of our Directors discovered the local intelligence channels and investigated, eventually leading to communication between Pax Emunio and Electus Matari.  We've become engaged in a war which, while it hasn't hurt us directly, the indirect toll on our productivity shows...but more, the effect on our personnel has been particularly galvanizing.  Content, previously, with our safe, workaday lives, we've now become polarized, eyeing those who prey on others not even from a sense of challenge for themselves, but for pure piracy or something even more elementally cruel.  All of our members have had combat ships alongside our industrials and barges, but never for much other than token service to the Republic at times, killing small-time pirates and the like in the belts.<br />
<br />
We're not fighters...but we have it in us, some certainly more than others.  We're not all of the same blood, either, but we do all share a hatred of the Amarr, even those who join us from that rotting empire.  Where we can fight them or fight any who work against the Republic, we will...and where we can do so with our brothers and sisters in Electus Matari, we will do so.  As you have extended us courtesies, we do so in return, fully aware of the disparity in scale of these gestures but seeking, here on out, to do what we can to help.<br />
<br />
On behalf of the Board and general membership of Pax Emunio,<br />
Weasella Uber, CEO]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Off sick]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3906</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:52:02 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Evanda Char</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I still have god awful stomach flu. Thought I'd be back today as the first day I threw up a lot, and the second day I only threw up a little, but it seems it's not an exponential decline &gt;.&lt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I still have god awful stomach flu. Thought I'd be back today as the first day I threw up a lot, and the second day I only threw up a little, but it seems it's not an exponential decline &gt;.&lt;]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Hey Sis']]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3893</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:05:52 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>3ll3</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey Eva' how's it going, look I'm way over streatche don my end with dealing with liberate dslaves and I still have [DETAILS REMOVED&#93;<br />
<br />
I need help getting them out of [LOCATION REMOVED&#93; there are a large number of children amongst them, some Gallentian and Matari.<br />
This is a number that way exceeds my capacity to aid and despratly need your assistance with this can you help me please Sis' ? <br />
<br />
I have enough supplies to last for a few months while arangements are made so for now so that at least shouldn't be a problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey Eva' how's it going, look I'm way over streatche don my end with dealing with liberate dslaves and I still have [DETAILS REMOVED]<br />
<br />
I need help getting them out of [LOCATION REMOVED] there are a large number of children amongst them, some Gallentian and Matari.<br />
This is a number that way exceeds my capacity to aid and despratly need your assistance with this can you help me please Sis' ? <br />
<br />
I have enough supplies to last for a few months while arangements are made so for now so that at least shouldn't be a problem.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Happy 111]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3884</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:32:04 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>3ll3</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Happy New Year to all you, I hope 111 is better than 110!<br />
*Raises a Glass*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Happy New Year to all you, I hope 111 is better than 110!<br />
*Raises a Glass*]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Happy New Year Thread]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3882</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:01:47 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Cap'n NoBeard</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hope you all have a wild time tonight, and wishing everyone a happy new year. <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br />
<br />
Toodles,<br />
- Cappy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hope you all have a wild time tonight, and wishing everyone a happy new year. <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br />
<br />
Toodles,<br />
- Cappy]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[VFPG Corporation Application]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3872</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:41:17 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Grak Yarn</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Why we want to join:<br />
<br />
We believe that VFPG joining EM would be mutually beneficial. As a corporation primarily involved in the mining industry, VFPG can help provide EM corporations and affiliated individuals with minerals at reasonable prices, while conversely the alliance gives VFPG a market for its goods. Additionally as the premiere pro-Republic podder alliance EM seems like a good fit for VFPG politically - what is good for the Republic is good for her tribes after all, Vherokior included. Finally, the support of such a well established and respected alliance will help VFPG fulfill its potential as a corporation.<br />
<br />
How our corporation works internally: <br />
<br />
Pilots pursue corporate goals together when scheduled and otherwise support themselves and the corporation via their own initiative. Internally the corporation is semi-democratic, with votes being held informally on major issues. Preliminary plans have been discussed should the corporate structure need scaling up.<br />
<br />
What our business plan is: <br />
<br />
Mining industry and some freelance work for the Vherokior tribe provide the majority of corporate funds. The corporation is always looking for new opportunities of course, and we look forward to finding ways to work together with other individuals and corporations within the alliance, as well as pitching in in any way we can of course.<br />
<br />
What our recruitment procedures are:<br />
<br />
Recruitment procedures are currently in an overhaul, however, we tend to try and vet our members with an eye towards attitude and history. Skills learned are generally a secondary consideration, and references are generally required.<br />
<br />
What we do as a corporation and what we are capable of:<br />
<br />
As a small corporation, we would be contributing to alliance goals first, and our own second, so what we would do is what we can to help the alliance. Other than that, mostly mining, again with an eye toward potentially expanding into industry as our member base grows. What we are capable of remains to be seen, but will will do whatever we can to accomplish alliance goals.<br />
<br />
________________________________________________________________<br />
Well there you have it EM. My corporation and I wait with bated breath for your response to these enquirers. I know on a personal level some of us had argued in the past but, ultimately, I think we can put that aside in favor of the Republic and her peoples.<br />
<br />
 Not to mention it makes for wonderful political and social discussions when we are in the same comm lines. Spirits be with you all.<br />
<br />
-Grak Yarn]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Why we want to join:<br />
<br />
We believe that VFPG joining EM would be mutually beneficial. As a corporation primarily involved in the mining industry, VFPG can help provide EM corporations and affiliated individuals with minerals at reasonable prices, while conversely the alliance gives VFPG a market for its goods. Additionally as the premiere pro-Republic podder alliance EM seems like a good fit for VFPG politically - what is good for the Republic is good for her tribes after all, Vherokior included. Finally, the support of such a well established and respected alliance will help VFPG fulfill its potential as a corporation.<br />
<br />
How our corporation works internally: <br />
<br />
Pilots pursue corporate goals together when scheduled and otherwise support themselves and the corporation via their own initiative. Internally the corporation is semi-democratic, with votes being held informally on major issues. Preliminary plans have been discussed should the corporate structure need scaling up.<br />
<br />
What our business plan is: <br />
<br />
Mining industry and some freelance work for the Vherokior tribe provide the majority of corporate funds. The corporation is always looking for new opportunities of course, and we look forward to finding ways to work together with other individuals and corporations within the alliance, as well as pitching in in any way we can of course.<br />
<br />
What our recruitment procedures are:<br />
<br />
Recruitment procedures are currently in an overhaul, however, we tend to try and vet our members with an eye towards attitude and history. Skills learned are generally a secondary consideration, and references are generally required.<br />
<br />
What we do as a corporation and what we are capable of:<br />
<br />
As a small corporation, we would be contributing to alliance goals first, and our own second, so what we would do is what we can to help the alliance. Other than that, mostly mining, again with an eye toward potentially expanding into industry as our member base grows. What we are capable of remains to be seen, but will will do whatever we can to accomplish alliance goals.<br />
<br />
________________________________________________________________<br />
Well there you have it EM. My corporation and I wait with bated breath for your response to these enquirers. I know on a personal level some of us had argued in the past but, ultimately, I think we can put that aside in favor of the Republic and her peoples.<br />
<br />
 Not to mention it makes for wonderful political and social discussions when we are in the same comm lines. Spirits be with you all.<br />
<br />
-Grak Yarn]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TQ &#x26; e-o forums still down]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3867</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:46:37 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Arkady Sadik</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><cite>TQ motd Wrote:</cite>Our operations team is working hard on resolving technical problems relating to our database servers. Currently we do not have an estimated time of completion but will post further information here and on the EVE Online forums as soon as they become available.</blockquote>
<br />
Rabble rabble rabble!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><cite>TQ motd Wrote:</cite>Our operations team is working hard on resolving technical problems relating to our database servers. Currently we do not have an estimated time of completion but will post further information here and on the EVE Online forums as soon as they become available.</blockquote>
<br />
Rabble rabble rabble!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[OOC: Days like these..]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3860</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:55:40 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Apis</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Well this was a first for me.<br />
<br />
I was reading other stories earlier and wanted to try it out myself.<br />
I tried to get more of Apis' background to the surface but I would really like to hear you're comment about the story.. and usefull tips, please<br />
<br />
Apis]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Well this was a first for me.<br />
<br />
I was reading other stories earlier and wanted to try it out myself.<br />
I tried to get more of Apis' background to the surface but I would really like to hear you're comment about the story.. and usefull tips, please<br />
<br />
Apis]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Days like these..]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3859</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:53:32 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Apis</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="text-decoration: underline;">84.11.11 -  23.32</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">** A bar in the Ammold V - Republic Military School station **</span><br />
<br />
<br />
He was staring at his glass, as he's been doing the entire evening. The brown clear liquid was flowing between half melted ice cubes calmly. Suddenly he picked up the glass and poured the liquid in his mouth, spilling some of it past his cheek down to his neck. He slammed the glass back on the bar and noticed the sebiestor that stood next to him. He was pretty sure the man wasn't standing there before but the entire night has been a blur so he wasn't sure. The well dressed, bald sebiestor slowly turned his head towards him.<br />
<br />
"Care for another one, corporal?" the man asked.<br />
<br />
"How the hell do you know that?"<br />
<br />
The man reached out his armed and tapped him on the shoulder: "Uniforms tend to tell a lot of those things"<br />
<br />
He looked at his own shoulder: "Oh... crap..."<br />
<br />
"I thought it wasn't allowed for marines to drink in public?"<br />
<br />
"Pff... what do you know? And screw the corp. Pretending to save people doesn't get them to safety, you know.."<br />
<br />
"Oh? Do I hear some discontent, soldier?"<br />
<br />
"Hey, I've been here for over 2 years now and nothin's changing.. all I do is train and hang around on a shootin' range<br />
<br />
...  I haven't even SEEN a god damned slave since I joined up!!"<br />
<br />
The man grinned: "Temper your voice, corporal. Not everyone in here is supposed to hear our conversation"<br />
<br />
"Why? This isn't a secret you know..."<br />
<br />
"Well that's right, but I want to talk to you about something." The man smiled.<br />
<br />
"We're already talking about something, idiot.." He looked back at his empty glass.<br />
<br />
The man leaned forward and started to whisper: "Right again, Mr. Smart-ass. Now listen up and stop your macho behaviour or I'll cut your throat, stupid moron."<br />
<br />
He looked up from his glass and slowly turned his head to the man.<br />
<br />
"What do you want?" He sounded more impressed then he wished to be.<br />
<br />
"We've been following your progress for a while now, corporal, and the people I work for want to have a word with you. So I suggest you start listening, because I'm only going to say this once."<br />
<br />
"Erm... sure" He sounded confused.<br />
<br />
"The people that send me told me to give you a simple choice. You can either stay here, drink yourself to death, being an useless instrument of war and slowly rot away.... or... you can get your stupid ass up follow me, and hear the offer... although I'll have to add that there is no going back if you decide to follow me..."<br />
<br />
"Eh... do i have to decide now? I have to say I'm having a hard time to decide if you have 2 or 3 eyes.." He grinned.<br />
<br />
"Listen up, idiot, you did that to yourself, I'm not responsible for your alcohol abuse. But I can tell you this is a one time opportunity... so what do you say, do you want to get to do some real work?"<br />
<br />
He shrugged: "Well anything beats this shit hole" He stood up: "Lead the way.."<br />
<br />
"First things first. "Red rose" remember that... and tell it to no one..."<br />
<br />
They walked out of the bar.<br />
<br />
-----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">** Somewhere in a back-alley of the station **</span><br />
<br />
The men have been walking for approx. 10 minutes when the sebiestor suddenly stopped and pointed towards a door.<br />
"That's where you go in, corporal"<br />
<br />
"Sure, what ever" He slowly opened the door and walked in. He stopped at the edge where the faint light from the alley met the dark shadow that covered the room and he turned around.<br />
"Could you turn on the lights? I can't see shit in here.."<br />
<br />
The man laughed: "Yeah sure... Good luck, corporal" And the man slammed the door shut.<br />
<br />
"You son of a bitch! Let me out!" He yelled, only to find out there was no response. He turned around, staring into the vast blackness which covered the room. From his right side he suddenly heard a person approach him with a rapid pace, he turned toward the sound and felt the blowing impact of a pipe shaped object striking him on the right side of his chest. He felt something snap in his chest and fell to the ground. By the time he hit the ground he felt a sharp and quick pain searing from he back of his head.....<br />
<br />
-----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />
<br />
"Wake him up..." A calm voice said.<br />
<br />
A cold liquid was thrown in his face, and he opened his eyes only to close them right after that. His head had never been hurting this bad before. He slowly opened his eyes. He was sitting on a chair. Right in front of him was a table, there was only a empty paper-cup and a desk-lamp on it. The lamp brightly shining into his eyes.<br />
<br />
"W-were am I?" He asked.<br />
<br />
"Well Rag'Nakhan, you just disappeared from the universe. I'm glad you survived our little welcoming "dance" ...I knew you would"  The calm voice said.<br />
<br />
He knew that voice, he had heard it before but he couldn't remember when or where.<br />
The lamp got turned down to the table, and for the first time Rag'Nakhan saw the face in front of him.<br />
Then it struck him, the voice, the man in front of him, he knew this man. A large brutor matari male, bald shaven and wearing sunglasses, going by the name of Andamulbunur Odoko. He used to be a guest speaker in college back when he was at school. He quickly looked left and right. He was in a small room with metal plated walls and a metal heavy looking door behind Odoko<br />
<br />
"M-mr. Odoko?"<br />
<br />
"Yes, but you can call me "Seth". Listen Vidar, we've had our eye on you for a while. You've been a perfect student and a lousy soldier. You're good in what your supposed to do but bored because you never get to do the real work." He calmly said.<br />
<br />
"What am I supposed to do?"<br />
<br />
Odoko grinned: "To do? You can't do anything at this moment. You're worthless at the moment.. "<br />
<br />
"Quite logical after what you did to me..."<br />
<br />
"Nonsense, you brought that upon yourself.. You shouldn't drink on days like these"<br />
<br />
"What?"<br />
<br />
"Non the less, your training starts today.. so basicly all we need you to do, Vidar... is survive" Odoko stood up and walked towards the door behind him. At the moment he layed his hand on the door knob he turned his head.<br />
<br />
"Oh, and Rag'Nakhan Vidar is a thing of the past, from now on your name is Apis"<br />
<br />
"What? Why?"<br />
<br />
Odoko smiled and shaked his head: "Apis.. Apis.. you should learn to watch your back, you know." He opened the door and walked out.<br />
<br />
Apis' chair got pulled back throwing him on his back immediately followed by a kick to his stomach. A large amarrian grabbed him by the throat and yelled: "In the bar... what did he say?"<br />
<br />
"What the?"<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="text-decoration: underline;">84.11.11 -  23.32</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">** A bar in the Ammold V - Republic Military School station **</span><br />
<br />
<br />
He was staring at his glass, as he's been doing the entire evening. The brown clear liquid was flowing between half melted ice cubes calmly. Suddenly he picked up the glass and poured the liquid in his mouth, spilling some of it past his cheek down to his neck. He slammed the glass back on the bar and noticed the sebiestor that stood next to him. He was pretty sure the man wasn't standing there before but the entire night has been a blur so he wasn't sure. The well dressed, bald sebiestor slowly turned his head towards him.<br />
<br />
"Care for another one, corporal?" the man asked.<br />
<br />
"How the hell do you know that?"<br />
<br />
The man reached out his armed and tapped him on the shoulder: "Uniforms tend to tell a lot of those things"<br />
<br />
He looked at his own shoulder: "Oh... crap..."<br />
<br />
"I thought it wasn't allowed for marines to drink in public?"<br />
<br />
"Pff... what do you know? And screw the corp. Pretending to save people doesn't get them to safety, you know.."<br />
<br />
"Oh? Do I hear some discontent, soldier?"<br />
<br />
"Hey, I've been here for over 2 years now and nothin's changing.. all I do is train and hang around on a shootin' range<br />
<br />
...  I haven't even SEEN a god damned slave since I joined up!!"<br />
<br />
The man grinned: "Temper your voice, corporal. Not everyone in here is supposed to hear our conversation"<br />
<br />
"Why? This isn't a secret you know..."<br />
<br />
"Well that's right, but I want to talk to you about something." The man smiled.<br />
<br />
"We're already talking about something, idiot.." He looked back at his empty glass.<br />
<br />
The man leaned forward and started to whisper: "Right again, Mr. Smart-ass. Now listen up and stop your macho behaviour or I'll cut your throat, stupid moron."<br />
<br />
He looked up from his glass and slowly turned his head to the man.<br />
<br />
"What do you want?" He sounded more impressed then he wished to be.<br />
<br />
"We've been following your progress for a while now, corporal, and the people I work for want to have a word with you. So I suggest you start listening, because I'm only going to say this once."<br />
<br />
"Erm... sure" He sounded confused.<br />
<br />
"The people that send me told me to give you a simple choice. You can either stay here, drink yourself to death, being an useless instrument of war and slowly rot away.... or... you can get your stupid ass up follow me, and hear the offer... although I'll have to add that there is no going back if you decide to follow me..."<br />
<br />
"Eh... do i have to decide now? I have to say I'm having a hard time to decide if you have 2 or 3 eyes.." He grinned.<br />
<br />
"Listen up, idiot, you did that to yourself, I'm not responsible for your alcohol abuse. But I can tell you this is a one time opportunity... so what do you say, do you want to get to do some real work?"<br />
<br />
He shrugged: "Well anything beats this shit hole" He stood up: "Lead the way.."<br />
<br />
"First things first. "Red rose" remember that... and tell it to no one..."<br />
<br />
They walked out of the bar.<br />
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<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">** Somewhere in a back-alley of the station **</span><br />
<br />
The men have been walking for approx. 10 minutes when the sebiestor suddenly stopped and pointed towards a door.<br />
"That's where you go in, corporal"<br />
<br />
"Sure, what ever" He slowly opened the door and walked in. He stopped at the edge where the faint light from the alley met the dark shadow that covered the room and he turned around.<br />
"Could you turn on the lights? I can't see shit in here.."<br />
<br />
The man laughed: "Yeah sure... Good luck, corporal" And the man slammed the door shut.<br />
<br />
"You son of a bitch! Let me out!" He yelled, only to find out there was no response. He turned around, staring into the vast blackness which covered the room. From his right side he suddenly heard a person approach him with a rapid pace, he turned toward the sound and felt the blowing impact of a pipe shaped object striking him on the right side of his chest. He felt something snap in his chest and fell to the ground. By the time he hit the ground he felt a sharp and quick pain searing from he back of his head.....<br />
<br />
-----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />
<br />
"Wake him up..." A calm voice said.<br />
<br />
A cold liquid was thrown in his face, and he opened his eyes only to close them right after that. His head had never been hurting this bad before. He slowly opened his eyes. He was sitting on a chair. Right in front of him was a table, there was only a empty paper-cup and a desk-lamp on it. The lamp brightly shining into his eyes.<br />
<br />
"W-were am I?" He asked.<br />
<br />
"Well Rag'Nakhan, you just disappeared from the universe. I'm glad you survived our little welcoming "dance" ...I knew you would"  The calm voice said.<br />
<br />
He knew that voice, he had heard it before but he couldn't remember when or where.<br />
The lamp got turned down to the table, and for the first time Rag'Nakhan saw the face in front of him.<br />
Then it struck him, the voice, the man in front of him, he knew this man. A large brutor matari male, bald shaven and wearing sunglasses, going by the name of Andamulbunur Odoko. He used to be a guest speaker in college back when he was at school. He quickly looked left and right. He was in a small room with metal plated walls and a metal heavy looking door behind Odoko<br />
<br />
"M-mr. Odoko?"<br />
<br />
"Yes, but you can call me "Seth". Listen Vidar, we've had our eye on you for a while. You've been a perfect student and a lousy soldier. You're good in what your supposed to do but bored because you never get to do the real work." He calmly said.<br />
<br />
"What am I supposed to do?"<br />
<br />
Odoko grinned: "To do? You can't do anything at this moment. You're worthless at the moment.. "<br />
<br />
"Quite logical after what you did to me..."<br />
<br />
"Nonsense, you brought that upon yourself.. You shouldn't drink on days like these"<br />
<br />
"What?"<br />
<br />
"Non the less, your training starts today.. so basicly all we need you to do, Vidar... is survive" Odoko stood up and walked towards the door behind him. At the moment he layed his hand on the door knob he turned his head.<br />
<br />
"Oh, and Rag'Nakhan Vidar is a thing of the past, from now on your name is Apis"<br />
<br />
"What? Why?"<br />
<br />
Odoko smiled and shaked his head: "Apis.. Apis.. you should learn to watch your back, you know." He opened the door and walked out.<br />
<br />
Apis' chair got pulled back throwing him on his back immediately followed by a kick to his stomach. A large amarrian grabbed him by the throat and yelled: "In the bar... what did he say?"<br />
<br />
"What the?"<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[OOC: Shadows]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3849</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:22:38 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Crevo</dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3849</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[Decided to write this in the middle of the night as I couldn't fall asleep without getting it out of my head.<br />
I usually don't write like this (as in pov, etc), but decided what the 'ell. Critique/comments are welcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Decided to write this in the middle of the night as I couldn't fall asleep without getting it out of my head.<br />
I usually don't write like this (as in pov, etc), but decided what the 'ell. Critique/comments are welcome.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Shadows]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3848</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:17:16 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Crevo</dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3848</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[“You guys aren’t payin me enough for this shit.” *sniff*<br />
<br />
“First off…stop bleeding on my notes…second, quit crying like a baby. He obviously knows we’re watching him; more shit like what happened here tonight and its just gonna make him that much harder to track.”<br />
<br />
“Well I’m not crying, my nose is broken and these clots aren’t doing a damn thing to stop the bleeding.”<br />
<br />
“Alright, just shut the fuck up. Lets start with the basics, when did he first show up?”<br />
<br />
“Little after midnight local time.”<br />
<br />
“Was he alone?”<br />
<br />
“Always is…”<br />
<br />
“Alright, but you said he met with someone here?”<br />
<br />
“Yeah, some Krusual, they didn’t talk long, hell, from where I was sitting, I could barely tell they were even talkin to each other. Looked just like a couple of Mins havin a drink at the bar.”<br />
<br />
“Alright, but they did talk… unfortunately the bartender didn’t offer up any clues to what was said.”<br />
<br />
“Yeah, he wouldn’t…”<br />
<br />
“What do you mean by that?”<br />
<br />
“Oh just…nevermind.”<br />
<br />
“Fine. Did they pass anything between them? Datapad…isk…”<br />
<br />
“Not from what I saw.”<br />
<br />
“Alright, then what the hell made you decide this was so fucking important you decided to forgo an immediate medical visit and instead come visit me at 0230 in the morning, bleeding all over the place…”<br />
<br />
“Listen to me! *slams fists onto the desk* When a Brutor walks into a bar and orders a drink, no one gives a damn. When a Krusual walks into the bar, stays for a total of 5 minutes, most of it spent chatting with our special capsuleer friend, then leaves, a few people might take notice. But when our buddy heads towards the door, stops as if he forgot something, then walks straight towards me, grabs my head and slams it into the table, twice, knocking me out for a few minutes, then everyone notices. And I do mean EVERYONE.”<br />
<br />
“…Ok…so you were made…what does it matter if…”<br />
<br />
“Aren’t you even listening? This bar is on a known RSS watchlist. They have cameras all over the place…”<br />
<br />
“Shit…”<br />
<br />
“Yeah, and considering the fact that no one even tried to confront him after such a violent outburst…”<br />
<br />
“Are you saying that he’s pointing them towards us?”<br />
<br />
“Wow, you actually do have a brain in there.”<br />
<br />
“Well…shit…lets get going then, I don’t want any RSS knocking on my door.”<br />
<br />
They won’t be, I made sure not to leave any obvious signs as to where I went afterwards. *turns toward the door*<br />
<br />
“Then ah…you might want to leave your jacket behind…”<br />
<br />
*Lifts off jacket and looks in horror at a large red bullseye smeared onto the back with his own blood*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[“You guys aren’t payin me enough for this shit.” *sniff*<br />
<br />
“First off…stop bleeding on my notes…second, quit crying like a baby. He obviously knows we’re watching him; more shit like what happened here tonight and its just gonna make him that much harder to track.”<br />
<br />
“Well I’m not crying, my nose is broken and these clots aren’t doing a damn thing to stop the bleeding.”<br />
<br />
“Alright, just shut the fuck up. Lets start with the basics, when did he first show up?”<br />
<br />
“Little after midnight local time.”<br />
<br />
“Was he alone?”<br />
<br />
“Always is…”<br />
<br />
“Alright, but you said he met with someone here?”<br />
<br />
“Yeah, some Krusual, they didn’t talk long, hell, from where I was sitting, I could barely tell they were even talkin to each other. Looked just like a couple of Mins havin a drink at the bar.”<br />
<br />
“Alright, but they did talk… unfortunately the bartender didn’t offer up any clues to what was said.”<br />
<br />
“Yeah, he wouldn’t…”<br />
<br />
“What do you mean by that?”<br />
<br />
“Oh just…nevermind.”<br />
<br />
“Fine. Did they pass anything between them? Datapad…isk…”<br />
<br />
“Not from what I saw.”<br />
<br />
“Alright, then what the hell made you decide this was so fucking important you decided to forgo an immediate medical visit and instead come visit me at 0230 in the morning, bleeding all over the place…”<br />
<br />
“Listen to me! *slams fists onto the desk* When a Brutor walks into a bar and orders a drink, no one gives a damn. When a Krusual walks into the bar, stays for a total of 5 minutes, most of it spent chatting with our special capsuleer friend, then leaves, a few people might take notice. But when our buddy heads towards the door, stops as if he forgot something, then walks straight towards me, grabs my head and slams it into the table, twice, knocking me out for a few minutes, then everyone notices. And I do mean EVERYONE.”<br />
<br />
“…Ok…so you were made…what does it matter if…”<br />
<br />
“Aren’t you even listening? This bar is on a known RSS watchlist. They have cameras all over the place…”<br />
<br />
“Shit…”<br />
<br />
“Yeah, and considering the fact that no one even tried to confront him after such a violent outburst…”<br />
<br />
“Are you saying that he’s pointing them towards us?”<br />
<br />
“Wow, you actually do have a brain in there.”<br />
<br />
“Well…shit…lets get going then, I don’t want any RSS knocking on my door.”<br />
<br />
They won’t be, I made sure not to leave any obvious signs as to where I went afterwards. *turns toward the door*<br />
<br />
“Then ah…you might want to leave your jacket behind…”<br />
<br />
*Lifts off jacket and looks in horror at a large red bullseye smeared onto the back with his own blood*]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Some Thing's Coming.]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3847</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:05:39 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>3ll3</dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3847</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[Maybe it's just me but I fear what has transpired in the federation that the new ruler of my people and that vile witch Empress Jamyl will be the cause of great pain for Matari and maybe even try to get the federation to turn against the MAtari People.<br />
<br />
I so hope I am wrong but I do smell some thing worng very very worng!<br />
Death by immolation is vile and totaly unacceptable, I am against killing and in the heat of of battle though unsavoury is the only time I feel it to be acceptable.<br />
<br />
<br />
Mark my words this is the start of some thing great, vile and evil but still truely great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Maybe it's just me but I fear what has transpired in the federation that the new ruler of my people and that vile witch Empress Jamyl will be the cause of great pain for Matari and maybe even try to get the federation to turn against the MAtari People.<br />
<br />
I so hope I am wrong but I do smell some thing worng very very worng!<br />
Death by immolation is vile and totaly unacceptable, I am against killing and in the heat of of battle though unsavoury is the only time I feel it to be acceptable.<br />
<br />
<br />
Mark my words this is the start of some thing great, vile and evil but still truely great.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Happy Xmas Thread!]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3841</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:38:06 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>G0rF</dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3841</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[It's at this time of year, as the people of the world gather with their families and loved ones to celebrate the birth of the most famous prophet of all time, I look about myself, and I feel compelled to say:<br />
<br />
<img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/G0rF/cthulu_xmas.gif" border="0" alt="[Image: cthulu_xmas.gif&#93;" /><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: x-small;">Thx to "Hello Cthulu" for the image.</span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[It's at this time of year, as the people of the world gather with their families and loved ones to celebrate the birth of the most famous prophet of all time, I look about myself, and I feel compelled to say:<br />
<br />
<img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/G0rF/cthulu_xmas.gif" border="0" alt="[Image: cthulu_xmas.gif]" /><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: x-small;">Thx to "Hello Cthulu" for the image.</span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[What we mean by 'RP']]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3837</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:09:19 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Arkady Sadik</dc:creator>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3837</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[When we say that we are a roleplay (RP) alliance, that our alliance chat is In-Character (IC), that our fleet chat is IC, people often get confused what we actually mean. There are dozens of different ideas out there what "RP" actually means. None of them is "more true" than the other, but it's important to understand what people mean when they use the term.<br />
<br />
For us, RP is <span style="font-style: italic;">immersionist</span> - we try to "immerse" into the game world, to play a character that lives inside the world of EVE. Our RP is about the daily life and interactions of our characters, based on their opinions and motivations.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Daily Life?</span><br />
<br />
Our RP revolves around the daily life of our characters. My character "gets into pod" in the morning - i.e. I log in - and then starts his daily tasks. He might be trying to earn some ISK today because he's a bit low on funds, or go to hunt some hostiles because he's a combat pilot. Or he might go and mine something, or go about other duties for the corp. I might curse a bit on corp chat because my agent hates me today with these stupid missions, or ask corp mates about their daily activities.<br />
<br />
While I am playing the game, I play it as my character. My character interacts with other characters, and this way, learns to know those characters.<br />
<br />
What makes it different from "non-RPers" playing the game is that my character has partly different opinions and motivations from me. He does things I probably wouldn't do if I would be playing this game without RP. In the interaction with other characters, my character develops in his own and sometimes unexpected directions. That is part of the fun we have in this game.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Opinions and Motivations?</span><br />
<br />
Let me give an example about the differences in opinions and motivations that actually has caused confusion in the past: I, as a player, think pirates are great. They enrich the game world and are necessary in EVE to make the game good. There should be more of them. My character disagrees strongly with me, because pirates kill citizens of the Republic and harm trade and development of low-security space.<br />
<br />
If I weren't playing a pro-Republic loyalist, I could very well play a pirate. My motivation is different from that of my character, but I play the game as my character. The end result is that I go and shoot pirates because my character has an in-character motivation to do so.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Common Misunderstandings</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP is Just Flavor Language</span><br />
For some people, RP means "I talk in a weird language" - like, "let us burn the shackles the slaver scum has cast upon us and bring pain to their children and children's children!" While some characters might talk like that, there is no reason why all characters would or should. Most people in the EVE universe talk quite normally. RP for us is about characters, not language.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP Only Happens Outside of the Game</span><br />
For some reason, a lot of people think that you either RP <span style="font-style: italic;">or</span> play the game, but not both at once. For those people, RP usually happens mainly on the forums, where they participate in heated discussions, or in chronicles where they describe certain events in their character's development. But they stop to RP when they enter the game. This might be from RP in certain other games, where the central game mechanics do not fit into the game world. EVE is awesome for RP because the game mechanics (mostly) fit very well into the game world. The mining, hauling, production, and PvP we do <span style="font-style: italic;">is</span> our game world. What we do in the game <span style="font-style: italic;">is</span> RP.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Fantasy World Mindset</span><br />
Especially people coming from fantasy MMOs have certain ideas about RP that are necessary in a fantasy setting, but not so in a sci-fi setting. A sci-fi setting allows you to talk about most things of the game very naturally, because our characters live in a world that is more advanced than ours, and as such, includes most of the technology we have.<br />
<br />
For example, the chat channels in the game are just that: Chat channels through which characters communicate. There is no reason to treat them like places on some planet. You can of course use the game mechanic of chat channels to enact certain places (and we do in some very specific channels, like bar channels), but that is absolutely not necessary for the majority of channels.<br />
<br />
Similarly, these forums (at least the IC parts) are forums for our characters as well. If we, in our current "real" world, have forums to discuss things on, why shouldn't our characters? Of course we can use the forums to describe events in certain locations, but by default, a discussion on the forums is just that for our characters: A discussion on forums.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP is About Your Race</span><br />
For some people, RP is about being loyal to the character's racial faction (or sometimes another faction) by for example only flying that race's ships or only using that race's technology.<br />
<br />
Our characters are personalities. Some may be fierce nationalists that look down on "inferior" technology or on working for foreigners, while other characters have more relaxed views. In our RP we enjoy the IC interaction of different personalities with varying temperaments and opinions.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP on Fleet Chat Makes You Bad PvPers</span><br />
Some people seem to think that fleet chat has to be OOC so you can concentrate on the "important things." I think this is related to the misunderstanding mentioned above that "RP is Just Flavor Language" - and I agree completely that "heat your barrels and aim them at the scum that calls himself Rodj Blake to erase him from the face of the world!" is not a very good way to call a primary, but there is no reason why your character should do it that way.<br />
<br />
All of the interaction on fleet chat and on voice can be just as concise and pragmatic "IC" as they would be "OOC." What we mean with "fleet chat is IC" is that you are flying with our characters, their motivations, and their opinions, and not with the players, whose opinions and motivations can be quite different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[When we say that we are a roleplay (RP) alliance, that our alliance chat is In-Character (IC), that our fleet chat is IC, people often get confused what we actually mean. There are dozens of different ideas out there what "RP" actually means. None of them is "more true" than the other, but it's important to understand what people mean when they use the term.<br />
<br />
For us, RP is <span style="font-style: italic;">immersionist</span> - we try to "immerse" into the game world, to play a character that lives inside the world of EVE. Our RP is about the daily life and interactions of our characters, based on their opinions and motivations.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Daily Life?</span><br />
<br />
Our RP revolves around the daily life of our characters. My character "gets into pod" in the morning - i.e. I log in - and then starts his daily tasks. He might be trying to earn some ISK today because he's a bit low on funds, or go to hunt some hostiles because he's a combat pilot. Or he might go and mine something, or go about other duties for the corp. I might curse a bit on corp chat because my agent hates me today with these stupid missions, or ask corp mates about their daily activities.<br />
<br />
While I am playing the game, I play it as my character. My character interacts with other characters, and this way, learns to know those characters.<br />
<br />
What makes it different from "non-RPers" playing the game is that my character has partly different opinions and motivations from me. He does things I probably wouldn't do if I would be playing this game without RP. In the interaction with other characters, my character develops in his own and sometimes unexpected directions. That is part of the fun we have in this game.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Opinions and Motivations?</span><br />
<br />
Let me give an example about the differences in opinions and motivations that actually has caused confusion in the past: I, as a player, think pirates are great. They enrich the game world and are necessary in EVE to make the game good. There should be more of them. My character disagrees strongly with me, because pirates kill citizens of the Republic and harm trade and development of low-security space.<br />
<br />
If I weren't playing a pro-Republic loyalist, I could very well play a pirate. My motivation is different from that of my character, but I play the game as my character. The end result is that I go and shoot pirates because my character has an in-character motivation to do so.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Common Misunderstandings</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP is Just Flavor Language</span><br />
For some people, RP means "I talk in a weird language" - like, "let us burn the shackles the slaver scum has cast upon us and bring pain to their children and children's children!" While some characters might talk like that, there is no reason why all characters would or should. Most people in the EVE universe talk quite normally. RP for us is about characters, not language.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP Only Happens Outside of the Game</span><br />
For some reason, a lot of people think that you either RP <span style="font-style: italic;">or</span> play the game, but not both at once. For those people, RP usually happens mainly on the forums, where they participate in heated discussions, or in chronicles where they describe certain events in their character's development. But they stop to RP when they enter the game. This might be from RP in certain other games, where the central game mechanics do not fit into the game world. EVE is awesome for RP because the game mechanics (mostly) fit very well into the game world. The mining, hauling, production, and PvP we do <span style="font-style: italic;">is</span> our game world. What we do in the game <span style="font-style: italic;">is</span> RP.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Fantasy World Mindset</span><br />
Especially people coming from fantasy MMOs have certain ideas about RP that are necessary in a fantasy setting, but not so in a sci-fi setting. A sci-fi setting allows you to talk about most things of the game very naturally, because our characters live in a world that is more advanced than ours, and as such, includes most of the technology we have.<br />
<br />
For example, the chat channels in the game are just that: Chat channels through which characters communicate. There is no reason to treat them like places on some planet. You can of course use the game mechanic of chat channels to enact certain places (and we do in some very specific channels, like bar channels), but that is absolutely not necessary for the majority of channels.<br />
<br />
Similarly, these forums (at least the IC parts) are forums for our characters as well. If we, in our current "real" world, have forums to discuss things on, why shouldn't our characters? Of course we can use the forums to describe events in certain locations, but by default, a discussion on the forums is just that for our characters: A discussion on forums.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP is About Your Race</span><br />
For some people, RP is about being loyal to the character's racial faction (or sometimes another faction) by for example only flying that race's ships or only using that race's technology.<br />
<br />
Our characters are personalities. Some may be fierce nationalists that look down on "inferior" technology or on working for foreigners, while other characters have more relaxed views. In our RP we enjoy the IC interaction of different personalities with varying temperaments and opinions.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">RP on Fleet Chat Makes You Bad PvPers</span><br />
Some people seem to think that fleet chat has to be OOC so you can concentrate on the "important things." I think this is related to the misunderstanding mentioned above that "RP is Just Flavor Language" - and I agree completely that "heat your barrels and aim them at the scum that calls himself Rodj Blake to erase him from the face of the world!" is not a very good way to call a primary, but there is no reason why your character should do it that way.<br />
<br />
All of the interaction on fleet chat and on voice can be just as concise and pragmatic "IC" as they would be "OOC." What we mean with "fleet chat is IC" is that you are flying with our characters, their motivations, and their opinions, and not with the players, whose opinions and motivations can be quite different.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Database normalisation]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3830</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:59:19 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Kalahari Wayrest</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[My mind has gone blank here for some reason. I can't be sure that my solution to this problem actually works or not, but here goes:<br />
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I have a company that sells widgets. There is a table containing the data for each widget type; widgetID (primary key), name, description, price etc.<br />
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I have a table for orders, which has the orderID (primary key), order number, a checkbox for if the payment has cleared (they accept cheque), and where the order came from (web, mail order, or phone).<br />
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Problem is, customers can order more than one type of widget per order.<br />
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What I have implimented is a linking table that has widgetID, salesID (primary key), orderID, quantity.<br />
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Does this actually work? In theory, the linking table will hold all of the widgets of all of the orders, like so:<br />
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<div class="title">Code:<br />
</div><div class="body" dir="ltr"><code>salesID&nbsp;&nbsp; widgetID&nbsp;&nbsp; orderID&nbsp;&nbsp; quantity<br />
0001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2345&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<br />
0002&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6868&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0002&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6<br />
0003&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9999&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0002&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1<br />
0004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6868&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0003&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;12</code></div></div>
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I *think* this works, but I would like a second opinion on it before I start populating the database properly.<br />
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Thanks <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /> <br />
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(Yes, I do get very bored when I don't have decent internet/computer access <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Tongue" title="Tongue" />)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[My mind has gone blank here for some reason. I can't be sure that my solution to this problem actually works or not, but here goes:<br />
<br />
I have a company that sells widgets. There is a table containing the data for each widget type; widgetID (primary key), name, description, price etc.<br />
<br />
I have a table for orders, which has the orderID (primary key), order number, a checkbox for if the payment has cleared (they accept cheque), and where the order came from (web, mail order, or phone).<br />
<br />
Problem is, customers can order more than one type of widget per order.<br />
<br />
What I have implimented is a linking table that has widgetID, salesID (primary key), orderID, quantity.<br />
<br />
Does this actually work? In theory, the linking table will hold all of the widgets of all of the orders, like so:<br />
<br />
<div class="codeblock">
<div class="title">Code:<br />
</div><div class="body" dir="ltr"><code>salesID&nbsp;&nbsp; widgetID&nbsp;&nbsp; orderID&nbsp;&nbsp; quantity<br />
0001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2345&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<br />
0002&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6868&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0002&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6<br />
0003&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9999&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0002&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1<br />
0004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;6868&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0003&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;12</code></div></div>
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I *think* this works, but I would like a second opinion on it before I start populating the database properly.<br />
<br />
Thanks <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /> <br />
<br />
(Yes, I do get very bored when I don't have decent internet/computer access <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Tongue" title="Tongue" />)]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Next London Meet: 28th Feb 09]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3816</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:49:41 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>G0rF</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=950945" target="_blank">HERE </a>is the official Eve-O thread.<br />
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Sign up!<br />
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The more we get signed up, the more likely we are to be able to book the entire pub.<br />
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The venue will be <a href="http://trustedplaces.com/review/uk/london/bar-pub/1u32v8q/goodman-s-field" target="_blank">Goodman's Field</a> (Wetherspoons) again, as it's easy to find, has no loud music, and most importantly, is very cheap!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=950945" target="_blank">HERE </a>is the official Eve-O thread.<br />
<br />
Sign up!<br />
<br />
The more we get signed up, the more likely we are to be able to book the entire pub.<br />
<br />
The venue will be <a href="http://trustedplaces.com/review/uk/london/bar-pub/1u32v8q/goodman-s-field" target="_blank">Goodman's Field</a> (Wetherspoons) again, as it's easy to find, has no loud music, and most importantly, is very cheap!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Live from Athra]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3810</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:18:45 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>0x23</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHWX1dciOE&amp;eurl=http://failblog.org/page/4/" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHWX1dci...rg/page/4/</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHWX1dciOE&amp;eurl=http://failblog.org/page/4/" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHWX1dci...rg/page/4/</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Help please, identify this song]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3807</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:56:10 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Arivana</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Okay, I was randomly surfing YT when I decided to see if there was any new videos (or old) from some old games I used to game.<br />
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Found a Freelancer video that bothers me alot - I can't recall band nor song and the tard that made it (it wasn't even good, more like medicore...) did not put in anything I could use to find, or remember either band nor song.<br />
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<a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DvaA8cosxE8" target="_blank">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DvaA8cosxE8</a><br />
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If anyone here do get a touch on either, I'd love to know. I've heard this before somewhere and have half a song on my mind atm...<br />
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// Arkady added "identify this song" to the subject to make it a bit more clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Okay, I was randomly surfing YT when I decided to see if there was any new videos (or old) from some old games I used to game.<br />
<br />
Found a Freelancer video that bothers me alot - I can't recall band nor song and the tard that made it (it wasn't even good, more like medicore...) did not put in anything I could use to find, or remember either band nor song.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DvaA8cosxE8" target="_blank">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DvaA8cosxE8</a><br />
<br />
If anyone here do get a touch on either, I'd love to know. I've heard this before somewhere and have half a song on my mind atm...<br />
<br />
// Arkady added "identify this song" to the subject to make it a bit more clear.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[PVP vid from about 7 monthes ago]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3805</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:35:08 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Thamuzz</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This was the first time Ralathar (the guy taking the vid) and I travelled deep into 0.0 space. Where we ratted for a bit... then met some (un)friendly natives from the Smite Brotherhood. <br />
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If you like seeing Minmatar ships kick ass (Tempest and Maelstrom) then this is what happend (be sure to check the watch list down on the lower right of the screen and you'll be able to see how close I was to death <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />):<br />
<br />
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(Oh and don't give me crap about my UI setup, this vid was taken from Ral's perspective <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />)<br />
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<a href="http://www.thelanbox.com/index.php?p=videos&amp;post_id=41" target="_blank">http://www.thelanbox.com/index.php?p=videos&#x26;post_id=41</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This was the first time Ralathar (the guy taking the vid) and I travelled deep into 0.0 space. Where we ratted for a bit... then met some (un)friendly natives from the Smite Brotherhood. <br />
<br />
If you like seeing Minmatar ships kick ass (Tempest and Maelstrom) then this is what happend (be sure to check the watch list down on the lower right of the screen and you'll be able to see how close I was to death <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />):<br />
<br />
<br />
(Oh and don't give me crap about my UI setup, this vid was taken from Ral's perspective <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />)<br />
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<a href="http://www.thelanbox.com/index.php?p=videos&amp;post_id=41" target="_blank">http://www.thelanbox.com/index.php?p=videos&post_id=41</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Pictures from a Fleet Battle at Kamela]]></title>
			<link>http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3804</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:13:12 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Thamuzz</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I can only find two pictures from this battle, the before and after <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /> <br />
Before<br />
<img src="http://thelanbox.com/gallery/270.jpg" border="0" alt="[Image: 270.jpg&#93;" /><br />
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After<br />
<img src="http://thelanbox.com/gallery/271.jpg" border="0" alt="[Image: 271.jpg&#93;" /><br />
<br />
Quite obviously, the counter-attacking Minmatar Fleet held the field with minimal losses! (and I didn't get primaried and destroyed!!!!)<br />
<br />
Matar Victor indeed]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I can only find two pictures from this battle, the before and after <img src="http://www.electusmatari.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /> <br />
Before<br />
<img src="http://thelanbox.com/gallery/270.jpg" border="0" alt="[Image: 270.jpg]" /><br />
<br />
After<br />
<img src="http://thelanbox.com/gallery/271.jpg" border="0" alt="[Image: 271.jpg]" /><br />
<br />
Quite obviously, the counter-attacking Minmatar Fleet held the field with minimal losses! (and I didn't get primaried and destroyed!!!!)<br />
<br />
Matar Victor indeed]]></content:encoded>
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