Rumor Mill Central proudly presents: Winter Expansion News.

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Some of this was already mentioned in my Apocrypha 1.5 post, but they apparently are scheduled for the winter expansion, not apocrypha 1.5:

Abandon all Wrecks, ye who enter here!
Apparently, you will be able to "abandon wrecks" - most likely to allow others to loot and salvage from them without flagging them.

Fleet Finder
Also, they seem to have implement an idea I posted a long while ago. Apparently, you can now "publish" your fleet if you set it for self-invite. You can publish it for your corp, your alliance, and your militia. And others can look for it in the "fleet finder" and join it.

The fleet finder will tell you who the leader of a fleet is and where he is located - I don't really like that.

Activities you can choose:
PVP - Conventional Fleet
PVP - Capital Fleet
PVP - Special Operations
PVE - Mining
PVE - Mission Running
PVE - Logistics
PVE - Ratting
PVE - Exploration
PVE - Wormholes

Minigame?
Apparently, they're working on integrating the minigame seen in the WiS videos. Including a betting option. It's called "Slay".

Store Fronts
Those seem to get some love, too. That is, you can create a "store front" in which you can put "offer" contracts - basically item exchange contracts that don't actually contain items, you just "offer" them; someone can then "accept" an offer to actually receive stuff (this apparently creates a WTB contract).

Arenas
Beautiful duelist arenas with epeening possibilities in total matches, wins, losses, and "average dps" - woot.

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You will be able to look into non-password-protected cans remotely, apply to corps remotely.

You will not be able to put bookmarks into POS modules anymore, and trial accounts can't run L3 or L4 missions anymore.

Sov Changes

The big thing for the winter expansion. I can only stress that the following are personal interpretations of vague rumors ...

Ok. First: Scratch POSes (for sov, not for industry), sov levels, constellation capitals, etc. All gone. *poof* Ok? Good.

Now, add two new structure types: "Claim Markers" and "Disruptors". *fiat module* Ok? Good.

So. You anchor and online a "claim marker" in a system. Your alliance gets a bill. If the alliance pays the bill before the claim marker goes online, you gain sov. Simple. No, I don't have any clue how much the bill would be or how long the onlining takes or whether there are delays like the current "one week until sov." You get to pay a monthly fee, too.

Now, you have this evil group that has sov somewhere, which is bad, because you want the sov. So you go into a system they have sov in, and anchor a "disruptor" within 20km of each of the star gates in it. The sov-holding alliance gets a mail about this. When a disruptor is anchored and online on each of the star gates, the system becomes "vulnerable to claim jumpers" - I guess the attacker can online their own claim marker, and gain sov. Also, I guess the claim marker is invulnerable while it's online?

From dev talk months ago, I would assume you can only anchor disruptors on the "border systems", not in the "core systems", but that's not even a rumor, more of an educated guess.

No, I have no idea where and how you can anchor cyno jammers now.

I hope there is some cool stuff for us non sov seekers too


No WIS rumors yet huh??

The WIS rumor some weeks ago was "no stuff where you can walk around for next winter expansion". ^^

It's confirmed that the Winter expansion won't have WiS, iirc.

(2009-08-13 13:51)Rocius Wrote:  I hope there is some cool stuff for us non sov seekers too

You mean, except for the first half of my post?

Quote:No WIS rumors yet huh??

No, only hard facts:

CCP t0rfifrans Wrote:All I can say, is that it [the winter expansion] is focused on sovereignty and you will not be able to walk in it.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=672

CCP so far never has said anything else about a release date of WiS than "when it's done".

(2009-08-13 15:18)Arkady Sadik Wrote:  

(2009-08-13 13:51)Rocius Wrote:  I hope there is some cool stuff for us non sov seekers too

You mean, except for the first half of my post?

Quote:No WIS rumors yet huh??

No, only hard facts:

CCP t0rfifrans Wrote:All I can say, is that it [the winter expansion] is focused on sovereignty and you will not be able to walk in it.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=672

CCP so far never has said anything else about a release date of WiS than "when it's done".

WIS rumor part, yeah I forgot about that dev blog

I guess its just too early to really adress the first half of your post actually. Would ahve to wait until its.... uhm... well.... Deployed??

Based on a few years of exp with CCP.... I dont really trust anything they say thats coming to an expansion... untill its actually deployed.

Abandon all Wrecks, ye who enter here!

Not really useful unless you just want to let someone else have the stuff. Doesnt address salvaging theft issues which to me seem more the problem than letting someone else have your stuff.

Fleet Finder

Ehhh.... so so there too. Fleet finder is ok I guess but the current fleet finder works. You know, that one where a pilot sayd "Any fleets out?" Definitly dont like the location finder aspect of it. I smell some issues there.

Minigame?

Could be neat too, but reserving comments here till I see it more.

Store Fronts

Been there done that once before waiting to see store fronts. Guess it will depend on the details and implimentation of this one. Could be interesting for Idustrial corps if done right.

Arenas

Guess this also depends on the impementation alot. Would have to see more on the "why" behind it.

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Look into cans is great actually. Would be the one thing I've read that would make me actually clap. Guess it depends also if you can remotely take stuff out of or put stuff into those cans for it to be not just great, but super awesome !

POS no BM's is.... dont see the point on that at all... I guess there is some reason behind this that I dont know.

Trial acct not running 3's and 4's is a good thing to me




All in all I just dont have alot of trust in CCP to do too much that they say they will untill I see it in TQ. Still waiting on some of those cool features from 3 and 4 years ago that never appeared.

They've been quite good with the updates recently.

But yes, this is "the sov update" - everything else will be rather secondary.

I'm curious about the effects on the fuel market. It depends a bit on whether sov claim markers require fuel (from what I read, it is entirely possible that both claim markers and disruptors are "just" a new kind of tower, so need fuel), but whichever way, the fuel demand of 0.0 alliances will go down drastically.

I know that you've caveated this whole sov concept as being nigh onto rampant speculation, but I'm curious: where is this rumor coming from?

I know that CCP intends to overhaul the sov system; that's not been a secret. And I've found lots of speculation as to what CCP might do, or what players think that they should do -- but I've had no luck finding Dev thoughts regarding the issue. Where did this particular variant come from, and what makes you believe that this might be the one CCP is considering?

Thanks to KJ for this link: http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/102/1021847p1.html

Quote:they are simplifying the way in which you claim space and attack people, and they are also letting alliances upgrade their space and invest in it.

Quote:However, in the expansion this weapon [doomsday] is being changed from an area-effect to a single-target one.

Quote:On the other end of the spectrum, they are introducing fighter-bombers, small ships much like the current fighters but which can destroy capital ships.

Quote:"speedboat missions" for smaller ships, as most of the existing PvE missions tend to focus on the larger battleships.

Quote:COSMOS, a social networking framework that allows players to create Facebook-like pages for their EVE characters, allowing them to maintain friend lists, write blogs, update their status, send each other messages and upload pictures. E-mail sent ingame can be read by the recipient through the website. Corporations and alliances will also have their own page.

Quote:EVE currently supports an ingame web browser that's a little dated so this functionality will also be upgraded so players can access the website from within the game.

Quote:Planet graphics are being revamped so each planet will be unique and truly beautiful.

Some more rumor milling:

Infrastructure Hub
Not sure what these are. Probably the "claim markers" from above.

Defense Bunker
A structure that can be anchored in systems claimed by your alliance, between 50 and 100km (yes, not closer) of a star gate, station, control tower, or infrastructure hub. Also, not closer than 50km of each other. There is also a maximum amount of defense bunkers per infrastructure hub.