I'm not generally long-winded. so I'll try and be as complete as possible, and answer any follow-up inquiries ASAP.
We are primarily an Industrial corp. The CEO ( me, grin ) cut his industrial teeth first in CAS, and then in Wild Bunch, currently a member of your alliance.
I am certain that Karagh, Dutch, Midgie and the rest of the gang from back then will give the wife and I positive commentary.
We can build all but Supercapitals and T3, and don't need a station to do it from, as we have the assets in space for all module, T2 and non-supercap production. I'll get T3 production trained one of these days......grin.
We have a substantial asset base in low sec Molden Heath, and are eyeing a lucrative spot in Great Wildlands for a nullsec expansion soon.
We have lived for quite a while in both low and null-sec, and have developed the general habit of assuming that someone is out to kill us everywhere we go, so war status doesn't really affect our day to day operations.
We currently have two characters that are extremely close to flying capital class ships, with the requisite support training.
Our mains, although industry focused, are more than ready and willing to engage militarily as the situation warrants.
We are completely self sufficient, and have the skills and resources to be as such in any system and in any environment.
We are, as a rule about as anti-Amarr as is possible to be. Both of our mains are irrevocably KOS to Amarr. Repeated destruction of their assets tends to do that, we happily discovered.
We are leaving our current alliance as it has more or less disbanded. The major players have left for other alliances, and the base of operations in Solitude has been fairly well abandoned.
We believe our interests are in line with those espoused by Electus Matari, and would like the oppourtunity to demonstrate our loyalty and abilities.
Thank you for your time and consideration, and as mentioned, I will attempt to answer all additional inquiries ASAP.
Echo Vector for Odyssey SEC
Hi there,
You've put a lot in about who you are (always a good start
), I'm curious as to what you're expectations of the alliance are... what do you see yourselves gaining from joining the alliance?
(2010-12-28 00:18)Kata Amentis Wrote: [ -> ]Hi there,
You've put a lot in about who you are (always a good start ), I'm curious as to what you're expectations of the alliance are... what do you see yourselves gaining from joining the alliance?
I would like to think that the benefits would be mutual, in so far, of course, as we can make things from our end. EM is a respected entity in many of the areas in which we currently operate, as well as specific areas that we are considering for expansion.
We would gain the association of the Alliance as members, and the accompanying recognition, for both peace and combat.
The Alliance would gain an industrial corp with a strong internal drive to succeed both as a corporartion and as an Alliance. Our policy is and always will be that our in-space assets are open to all Alliance members as safe havens and staging areas, as well as any scientific facilities that may be of use to Alliance members.
Hello,
Thank you for your application. I will start the internal process on this and you will hear the decision in a week or so. During that time, all our pilots are encouraged to ask you questions. If you feel that some answers are not suitable for general public, just PM them to me and I'll forward them to more secure channels.
Jayleen Wyld
EM council secretary
And few questions:
- how many pilots do you currently have and what are your plans for growth?
- We are often in state of constant wars, how do you feel that affects your daily operations?
- What is your current RoE?
((And the mandatory OOC: What is your stance on RP?))
Hello Echo Vector,
i am glad you still remember your roots within the TWB corporation and refering to it. Sadly we where not able to hire you within the past 2 years - As far as i remember you where very loyal to us - so i am happy you continued your path of an industrial and growed up.
I am surprised about your application to Electus Matari overall - as i didnt even had a chance of a private conversation the past years - even mails where not responded. What changed your mind?
Due to the internal organisation of Electus Matari the corporations are independend by default and can decide seperatly whatever they need to decide, but still we are following the major path which is described by alliance council votings. What do you think about loosing 'some' of your independence?
Due to the politicial environment of Electus Matari we have a lot of friends and hostiles. We will try but can not guarantee 100% protection of any assets you may have - What do you think about it?
I think i have some more questions - but they should be asked in private.
So far - nice to see you alive!
Karagh
Jayleen Wyld:
Our corporation/associates consists of my wife and I and our combined 14 characters controlled soley by us. We have never actively recruited. That is not to say that we have ever actively discouraged recruits from applying; our offices all have applications available and we would certainly consider anyone who took enough interest in us to apply. You have brought the subject of 'corporate growth' to the forefront of our in-house discussions. We may very well now begin an agressive recruitment if it is determined that is the best course for us to take.
War, in and of itself, is not a deterrent to us. We have lived in mostly dangerous areas, surrounded by the most unfriendly of types, who could frankly care less if a formal war was in effect before attacking assets. War simply makes the bad guys stand out more clearly, and in my own personal opinion, allows for a greater range of proactive defense. A non-blinky may or may not shoot. A blinky red will almost assuredly do so.
Our corp RoE and philosiphy is anti-pirate, anti-grief, anti-theft. We are NRDS everywhere.
My personal stance on RP is that everyone in this game engages in it in some form or fashion. We all play a character. The depth and extent to which we take that immersive experience varies wildly, even among individuals given any number of internal and/or external influences. The game, while an important piece of life, is, at the end of the day, only a game, and real life will always trump, for good or bad.
Karagh:
Let me step into a bit of RP for these responses.
Do you remember why I left? I am Gallente, not Matar. I was never property, though certain parties chose, unwisely, to treat me that way in my corporate duties as POS production technician. Slaving away, month after month, feeding and caring for a dozen large towers in very hostile space, and bearing the full responsibility of mining the ice products to feed them, all for no pay, was simply more than I could bear. The repeated promises of "you'll get paid next month" never came. I can most certainly begin to understand the plight of the average Matar slave. I had a way to end my servitude. I chose it. The Matar who are property, sadly, have no such escape mechanism.
I chose for a very long time to avoid communications. I was never disloyal to TWB. I gave TWB my all, every day. To be fair, I did gain an extensive, even exhaustive knowledge set for in-space production and self sufficiency, mainly from the long period of living in stationless Mahti. For that, I am grateful to TWB for the experience.
Our decision to seek an alignment and membership in Electus Matari came as a result of our existing alliance basically disbanding due to conflicting priorities. We learned many things along our journey between our days in TWB and today, and one important lesson was the importance of having the support, even if only from a morale standpoint, of a respected alliance.
You mention above 'loosing some of our independence'. Please elaborate. Will membership in EM involve some mandatory thing or things to which we have not yet been made aware? If so, please detail. We did spend time in a large alliance where the demands of the alliance were simply untennable, and we will not make that mistake again.
You mention the fact that Electus Matari has a lot of friends and hostiles, and that you can not guarantee 100% protection of our assets. I appreciate your candor in the matter, and I can assure you that we are not looking for someone to 'protect us'. Since our days in Dysa/Mahti, and then Helgatild, and since then the semi lawlessness of low sec solitude and several nullsec systems, we have long since become accustomed to having assets at risk, how to conduct affairs and how to discourage random attacks. If all we were seeking was protection, I wouldn't insult this alliance with the application; I would disband and rejoin an NPC corp.
Please present all of your questions here in the open. We have no secrets and nothing to hide.
Glad to see that you, too are well!
Echo
(2010-12-28 19:48)Echo Vector Wrote: [ -> ]My personal stance on RP is that everyone in this game engages in it in some form or fashion. We all play a character. The depth and extent to which we take that immersive experience varies wildly, even among individuals given any number of internal and/or external influences. The game, while an important piece of life, is, at the end of the day, only a
((While I certainly agree with your points here, I can't help but clarify and say that in EM RP>Rest, meaning that in a forum that is marked IC like this one, Alliance Chat, Public Channels, many fleets, we are purely IC. If you have something OOC to say, you say it either in an OOC channel or as infrequently as possible, by using ((double parentheses)). Slipping back and forth between IC and OOC will break immersion for people, so the question should be will you two be comfortable communicating as your characters most of the time? Will it be a bit strange to play 14 unique characters ICly? ))
As industrialists, most of our verbal communications involve swearing at and cajoling various pieces of cantankerous hardware into submission. Just this very morning one of my laboratories chose to have an atitude issue involving the AI interface, resulting in several swift kicks to the card cage and not-so-subtle threats of replacement with a newer model. It mumbled something about ungrateful operators before managing to begin processing the tasks set before it for the day.
We generally don't get chatty. When we do, you can expect to experience us in all of our character glory. I, for example, am a crabby, jaded and generally anti-social greasemonkey with a penchant for tolerating foolishness from my machinery.
Oscillation Overthruster, one of my associates, is a reformed Caldari fellow from a long line of elite missile pilots. He hates industry with a rabid passion, and would rather starve to death than fire up a mining laser. He lives for his missiles. Ask him the best use of a POS and he's likely as not to tell you 'target practice'.
Kailaini will eventually speak for herself and her own associates as she sees fit. I learned long ago to not speak for her. I treasure my remaining appendages. Her bio speaks for itself.
(( getting used to using the double parens when required shouldn't be too cumbersome, I wouldn't think, and avoiding OOC commentary will come naturally in time ))
Thanks for the information.
I remember the time very well when you where part of our business / industrial branch. Your work and effort for the TWB corporation was not unnoticed - even if the 'payback' as you mentioned where never that fluid as expected. Due to expansion and high costs of invests - cash flow was always one of the major problems in the past. But it isnt anymore. Second part which i solved was the missing transparency of our business to the shareholders of the investments (financial or personal investments to be counted here). I am very sad you did not saw the results of your work for us and that i never had the chance of giving you a hint about it. I am very shure that you where one of the major pilots who stepped us forward massivly - so it was a double drawback that you left right before we joined Electus Matari. Last official word about this: we never saw you as a working slave, but as a valuable partner. Maybe we can have a private conversation about the past two years and about the topics why you left - i still want to discharge the debt...
To answer your question:
"loosing some of our independence" - i assume there is nearly for everything a rule in Electus Matari - most of them you will already do by default. The Rules of Engagement is one example of it. It describes when a pilot of Electus Matari is allowed to shoot at someone else. (eg.: red flashy pilots can be shot without any warning). You are not allowed to bypass the rules as it can have impacts on a high political level - as you may know Electus Matari has a high reputation within the cluster and there is a reason for that. Noone within Electus Matari will try to force you to do something you dont want to - but you are not allowed to do forbidden stuff (as you stated "Our corp RoE and philosiphy is anti-pirate, anti-grief, anti-theft. We are NRDS everywhere." - you may not suffer any losses) - the last part is the loss of some independence. Everything on corporation level will remain within your own responsibility.
Karagh
Edit: typo